University League Table (Times)

[Damien]

I thought as a matter of interest I could put on the Times League Table of universities which shows the top 100 universities in the UK. It could help you decide between two universities if you were really stuck. I have only listed the ones with medical schools.

Below is the position, the corresponding university and the number of points it was awarded (max. 1000):

UK TOP

1 - Cambridge (1000) (maximum points, of course. I wonder where the chief editor of the Times studied...)
2 - Oxford (984)
3 - London Imperial (973)
4 - Bristol (899)
5 - London, UCL (886)
6 - Warwick (874)
7 - Edinburgh (867)
8 - St. Andrews (859)
9 - Nottingham (855)
10 - Newcastle (838)
11 - Birmingham (813)
12 - Manchester (804)
12 - Sheffield (795)
13 - London, King's (794)
14 - Aberdeen (788)
15 - Glasgow (783)
16 - London, Queen (775)
17 - Queen's, Belfast (771)
18 - Leeds (761)
19 - Leicester (733)
20 - Dundee (727)
21 - Exeter (721)
22 - Liverpool (720)
23 - Southampton (720)
24 - East Anglia (712)

SCOTTISH TOP

1 - Edinburgh
2 - St. Andrews
3 - Aberdeen
4 - Glasgow
5 - Dundee

Three universities possessing a medicine course were not featured in the top 100.

The scoring is based on teaching quality, research, entry standards, student:staff, library and student spending, expenditure on facilities/students, % students with good degree/destination and % completed in good time.

Damien :evil

[jojo]

Wow i thought Glasgow would be higher than that!!!Who made these up?Are they for Med schools or the entire uni?

soz just being nosy jo xx:)

[Damien]

That's taking in lots of factors about teaching quality, money spent per studen etc. and not just on the medical school.

[xjimmyleungx]

Here are the links to the newest league table specifically for the medicine course
Times:
http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/gooduniversityguide2005/20medicine.pdf
last year Glasgow was #1
Guardian:
http://education.guardian.co.uk/universityguide2005/table/0,15905,-5163909,00.html?start=0&index=2&index=2

[Adam]

I wouldn't pay attention to the league tables. they're a pile of rubbish.

[Adam Gilmour]

I'd agree with that!

[Liz]

Yeah i'd agree with that too. At school they told us that the league tables were a pile of rubbish and we shouldn't pay any attention...I notice tho that that was the year the school stopped being top in the district :p

[Adam]

Yeah i'd agree with that too. At school they told us that the league tables were a pile of rubbish and we shouldn't pay any attention...I notice tho that that was the year the school stopped being top in the district :p

well according to these, edinburgh is top. but i still say league tables are a pile of rubbish.

[Dexter]

Yeah - difficult to decipher between TOP UNI full stop with TOP UNI FOR MEDICINE, which is obviously quite different. They do give a rough idea - like birmingham aint top for medicine.

[Damien]

If a league table was to even closely relate to how good a medical school is they should target how good doctors who have graduated are at their jobs and subsequently their post-graduate exams. How they can compare schools with completely different teaching methods (or hospitals for that matter) is beyond me. The fact that the table changes like the wind is the biggest giveaway.

However, perhaps the universities at the bottom must be bad (or am I contradicting myself? I think I am actually). Yeah, ignore the tables. Like I said 4 years ago... "it COULD" ;)

[phlangepal]

Go Manchester, thats all I want to say!!!

[Adam]

angela/ are you a doctor now? or if you are a student, what year?

[elliottsimpson]

angela/ are you a doctor now? or if you are a student, what year?
Angela has managed to get all the way through the maze which is medical education and should be starting her first pre-reg house job this very week - hope you're enjoying it Angela.

(see http://www.monklandsnextgen.com/forums/showthread.php?p=44886#post44886)